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Captain Semper
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Posted - 2015.04.14 18:53:13 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
Confessor:
- New Role Bonus: +50% Small Energy Turret Damage
- Highslots: 6 (-1)
- Turrets: 4 (-2)
- Powergrid: 62 (-18)
- CPU: 180 (-10)
- Max Velocity: 235 (-45)
- Mass: 2,000,000kg (-400,000)
- Inertia: 2.7 (+0.55)
- Shield Recharge Time: 800s (+175s)
- Capacitor Recharge Time: 320s (+20s)
Svipul:
- New Role Bonus: +50% Small Projectile Turret Damage
- Highslots: 6 (-1)
- Turrets: 4 (-2)
- Powergrid: 59 (-19)
- CPU: 205 (-10)
- Max Velocity: 230 (-60)
- Mass: 1,500,000 (-400,000)
- Inertia: 3.5 (+0.85)
- Shield Recharge Time: 800s (+175s)
- Capacitor Recharge Time: 240s (+15s)
Material Requirements: +1 to each of Electromechanical Interface Nexus, Fullerene Intercalated Sheets, Optimized Nano-engines, Reconfigured Subspace Calibrator, Self-Assembling Nanolattice, Warfare Computation Core Like I said above, thanks to everyone who has participated in this feedback thread so far. We're very interested in hearing your thoughts about this second iteration of the changes.
Ok. Good.
Please, tell me, why i should fly wolf or jag instead of svip? Srsly. What is assaults do better then t3d?
I forced to fly wolf becuase cost? Nope. 20kk different. Even 30 or 40 kk is nothing.
People fly t3d (and certainly they fly svip) becuase of safe pvp. SAFE. Svip forgives many mistakes for nothing.
"Oh god, he god me with web and scram. Well better to turn on my 10mn ab and get 1,5 km/s and fly away."
'Oh god, cruiser in range! Well i have 400 shield/s passive tank with 70m sign."
All stats better then any analogue in frig or destr size.
I want to remember CCP their picture: BALANCE
So, tell me witch destr or frig have more dps/tank and even speed then svip.
If i thinks correct - assault ships is spec in damage deal. Sooooo....?
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Captain Semper
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
63
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Posted - 2015.04.14 19:57:36 -
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GROUND XERO wrote:Harvey James wrote:perhaps reduce the 50% damage role bonus a little too say 25%? .. versatility over high power levels is meant to be the point afterall, along with resists to T1 default level. and a little less base speed is needed too balance them. why not just cancel them cause your ideas are making them worse than trashers? ... and these are t3 ships so why tt1 resis??? :_)
Why not just delete assaults from game? We have t3d! Better in all ways! Its a balance! |
Captain Semper
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:13:06 -
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Teh Tripple wrote:Captain Semper wrote:GROUND XERO wrote:Harvey James wrote:perhaps reduce the 50% damage role bonus a little too say 25%? .. versatility over high power levels is meant to be the point afterall, along with resists to T1 default level. and a little less base speed is needed too balance them. why not just cancel them cause your ideas are making them worse than trashers? ... and these are t3 ships so why tt1 resis??? :_) Why not just delete assaults from game? We have t3d! Better in all ways! Its a balance! Destroyers can already kill AFs with ease so i dont see the issue
assaults vs destris. Assaults have much more resists and still high damage with good speed.
BUT t3d have even much then assaults have in all ways and all of that at the same time.
I think so - t3d must have less stats in each tactical mode then assaults. If that defence mod - they ehp must be nearly or slitly less then assaults have. Speed? Same. Sharpshoot? Same.
But even hull of t3d have much stats then assault. Thats all about. |
Captain Semper
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:15:19 -
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GROUND XERO wrote:Assault frig is a frig...so what do you expect when going against a T3 destroyers when destroyers are designed to kill frigs? I never cried because i can-Št solo a titan in my dread...
Ok, you was blind. Lets try again |
Captain Semper
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:17:35 -
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Teh Tripple wrote:NovemberMike wrote:Teh Tripple wrote:NovemberMike wrote:Teh Tripple wrote:it wont eliminate a ship class from the game and make it useless, AFs have a place. just like people fly cruisers of all types and not just t3 A Huginn has longer range webs than a Loki. There is a reason to run a Huginn if you want the best webber. A Guardian is better at repping than a Legion. A HAC has reduced MWD signature compared to a T3 so there's at least some use if you want to be tough and go fast. What does an AF do better than a D3? run? it might be a reason to buff AFs but not nerf T3Ds to the point they are worse than t1. because that's whats going to happen. thrasher was always strong against AFs when arty fit I'm not sure you understand, it's perfectly ok that T3D's would beat AFs in a straight fight. A Legion will beat a Guardian in a shooting match any day. The question is what niche T3Ds leave for AFs, and if they don't leave a niche then something needs to be done. so that's a valid reason to nerf them? because AFs no longer have a place, like BS and BC we should just nerf cruisers aswell then
Lol wut? A lot of BC uses in most alliance.
Mach, navy apoc, megas, rattle, domi, ravens. What are u talking about? |
Captain Semper
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:41:45 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Cade Windstalker wrote:The comparison with AFs is apt because these ships perform similarly and in similar roles, If they performed similarly, I think this thread would be over by now. If they performed in similar roles, what would be the point of calling one a "destroyer" and one an "assault frigate"? Frigates are supposed to move around quickly, catch things off guard, swarm in and overwhelm. Destroyers are supposed to provide mobile, fast tracking point defense. There is an inherent asymmetry in what they each do. Frigates scout and scan and tackle and transport and provide all sorts of awesome utility functions for their fleet depending on their hull specialization. Destroyers look for things to destroy and destroy them. So, if you warped in on a destroyer in your frigate, you did half his job for him. It seems like bad strategy more than a ship balance issue. Not saying I dislike or disagree with the balance changes.
Avarege AFs speed like 1,7-2km/s.
T3d can fit 10mn ab that gives 3-4km/s w/o penalty to sign.rad.
If t3d fits 1mn mwd it still gives much more speed then af have.
Why sabre have less ehp then enyo if destr suppose to kill af?
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